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Cat with Colitis- Valpofan98, March 2006
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Hey everyone! =) So, I woke up this morning and found that Angus had defecated (sp?) near the litter box and it had some blood in it. This is not the first time there was blood in his defecation due to his straining. The first time I caught the blood I had my vet run a stool sample test on it and it came back normal. What really caught my attention this morning was that Angus urinated in one of the cat beds that the cats never use.

So, I am lucky...my vet opens at 7:30 am so I dropped off both Clay and Angus at the vet so they both could get checked out. Clay has had a liver problem so I was pretty confidant the culprit was not Clay because he is constantly at the vet and always has a clean bill of health (for the past 2 months). Woohoo!!

So, I dropped my cats off...the vet called me later and is starting with a diagnosis of Colitis for Angus. Angus is currently on Flagyl 50 mg twice daily for 10 days. And, both of my cats are now on Royal Canin Vension Formula IVD dry and wet food. The prescription, hypo-allergenic medication is going to be a constant diet. I am not quite sure what is up with the Flagyl after 10 days.

My vet always did an entire bloodwork on Angus and the results should be back tomorrow. At that time, I am going to ask her about the Flagyl and also if the discomfort from the Colitis caused the urination. From what I read, cats will urinate as a plea for help.

I am glad my vets are getting on top of this...I have suspected something was up with Angus' GI tract for awhile and it is nice to know I was on target. The hard part is just dealing with another funked up cat...I guess they come across my doorstep for a reason!

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I hope Agnus recovers fully.

Here are some links about colitis in cats:

http://www.peteducation.com/article.cfm?cls=1&cat=1322&articleid=248

http://www.nhahonline.com/f_gastrointestinal.htm

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Thanks for the good wishes.

The vet called today with Angus' blood work and he passed with flying colors. After only two pills of Flagyl 50 mg, Angus appears back to his VERY ENERGETIC kitten self. It is interesting...After starting the hypoallergenic cat food (mixing with old dry food) for now, he has stopped sneezing as much as he was before. I am glad to see the wee one back to his bouncy self.

He has eight more pills of the Flagyl to go...then I observe him and see if he is able to do well off of it...If his stool starts getting watery as before then the vet will put him back on something.

Between Mills, Clay and Angus...I feel like a vet now.

The cool thing is that at the vet Clay and Angus hung out together in a kittie condo and they were the hit at the vet's office for the day they spent there. =)

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Well, sounds like you and the vet have the situation under control and that's always good news.

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AWESOME!!!! I wish more vets had places like that for two or more cats from the same family to play in together. At least they had a good time away from home!!!

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I'm glad that Angus's blood work looks good and that he's feeling better today! Yay!!!

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Well, it turns out that Angus lost 6 ounces since his last vet visit on 3/21/2006. He is at 10 pounds, 6 ounces right now. I brought him to the vet because I was concerned about his behavior as of late, acting as though in discomfort after eating.

I asked the vet some questions, this is what she had to say:

1) Angus' sneezy and coughy challgenes are probalby reminents of a herpes infection that will be life lingering.

2) What is happening with Angus is not life threatening. (I asked her specifically.)

3) It is not FIP because Angus would already be gone if it was FIP. (I asked her this specifically.)

4) He may need to go on steriods but she would rather not because of the herpes infection.

5) We may need to try another prescription diet...he is on IVD right now. We are going to give the IVD food another month to work.

6) She wants to see him in a month again.

7) Try Pepcid AC if he has an upset stomach.

8 ) His chewing of paper is probably due to not feelng well.

9) If he looks not comfortable, follow your gut and take him to the vet.

10) Give him L-Lsyine twice daily for his lifetimes.

11) Give him Metronidazole (Flagyl) 50 mg twice daily for 2 weeks. After a couple of days, his feces should return to normal.

I am not all that thrilled that in one month & 10 days he lost 6 ounces but in the grand scheme, that is not a substanial loss. Yet another situation where I am re-affirmed that I need to listen to my gut and that I am not overly anxious about my cats...I know when something is wrong. There is someone in my life who thinks that the problems with my cats exist because I am over-sensitive. I listened to him and let things be...and, well, today, it was proven again to me that I have a good head on my shoulders and I know when something is not quite right with my cats.

I have learned there are certain things I just cannot talk to this friend about and I am glad I have this forum to share with because you all understand!

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Sounds like you and the vet have a good plan for Angus.

Losing a bit more than 1/2 a pound in a month is worrisome, but it sounds like he wasn't feeling well, and therefore not eating resulting in the weight loss. That is something to keep tabs on, of course.

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Yet another situation where I am re-affirmed that I need to listen to my gut and that I am not overly anxious about my cats...I know when something is wrong. There is someone in my life who thinks that the problems with my cats exist because I am over-sensitive. I listened to him and let things be...and, well, today, it was proven again to me that I have a good head on my shoulders and I know when something is not quite right with my cats. 


Always, always listen to your gut and believe in yourself. "Mom's" do know almost instinctively when something is just not right with one of their "babies". I put off taking Sumner to the vet when he was a year old thinking maybe I was being over-worried when something just didn't seem right to me, but it turns out he was almost dead from anemia by the time it was very clearly obvious something was wrong!! He could have died if we waited just one more day.

It is ALWAYS better to take an animal, or child, to the vet/doctor if you just feel something is not right. The best news would be that all is well, but usually, something is not right. The sooner the problem is found and treated, the less serious it would be.

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Amen! For some things, you really need to talk just to people who are involved with the topic you want to discuss. Other people just can't really understand it throughly.

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I have to agree with Margaret that sometimes you just HAVE to go with your gut feelings..... My husband thinks I'm really nuts sometimes......ok, ALL the time, because I am CONSTANTLY watching my cats for any little tiny signs of something amiss and I have been 100% right every time. He still thinks I'm a bit over the top about it but I'm sorry - my kittys lives depend on me and I'm going to be there for them come h*** or high water.

Oddly enough - Monday I was very concerned about Sparky. I got up in the morning to prepare for work as usual and there was NO SIGN of him anywhere.... he was laying on the bed in his old safe room the whole time. I told Neil that I think there's something wrong with him because if you've followed the Sparky story - you'd know that is NOT right for that cat.

He seemed ok when I came to pet and talk to him and he purred so I thought....ok.... he might just be tired or something. I went to work. Neil went to work. I came home and still no Sparky. He was still on the bed.... he ALWAYS meets me at the door with the others..... last night I did notice he urinated, he did eat, he did drink.....still waiting for him to defacate. Today (Tuesday) he is coming off the bed more often so maybe it was just a tummy ache.... somebody pooped sometime early this a.m. (before dawn) and something tells me it was him but I'm not sure. I heard the burying of litter as I was turning over at some point.

The point is - I think my husband is FINALLY starting to pay attention. Last night, after he came home...he actually went into the safe room with HIS boy and lay on the bed with him and Sparky rested his head in his daddy's hand. Apparently, my husband is beginning to see that I DO know what I am talking about. Sparky, as I said, seems to be feeling better this morning. He's still a bit quiet but he's coming out more.... I was fearing he was starting to act like Mark's Evan with his "hiding" and I was on the verge of calling the vet. Thankfully I am home almost all day on Tuesdays so I've been able to keep an eye on him and I believe he's going to be just fine.

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Thank you both for your repsones...it is good to know people like me who are aware of what is going on with their cats! =) After only two pills of Flagyl, Angus is acting like kittie X100. Basically, he has his energy back and his appetite has picked up again. So far, all of the feces I have found in the litter box (we are an interesting bunch! LOL!) are well formed. It seems like Flagyl really does the trick with Angus. 13 days more of the Flagyl then 2 weeks off to see if the new food has kicked in or not. Then we make a decision if he needs to be medicated daily for his colitis or not.

I just keep thinking that my Higher Power puts these cats with health problems in my path for a reason! =)

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Michelle, I hope Sparky is fine. Sometimes they just have one of those "bad hair days" and I hope this is all it is. Please let us know.

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Re: Cat with Colitis- Valpofan98, March 2006
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So far, all of the feces I have found in the litter box (we are an interesting bunch! LOL!) are well formed. It seems like Flagyl really does the trick with Angus.


I am so glad to hear that Angus is doing much better now. 

Yes, you become a "poop talker" when you have cats. Poop tells a lot about the health state of an animal and for animals that can't talk, including human babies, it is important to take note of what their poop is like.

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Probably so.

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Michelle, I too hope Sparky is OK. One time Simon hid for a whole day which is not like him, and he didn't eat, which is really, really, not like him. But the next day he was mostly back to his usual self, and by the day after, seemed totally back to normal.

Hopefully it will be that way with Sparky- just a minor one day "bug".

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I agree totally! I feel the same way.

I'm sorry about Angus, and I will pray that everything will work out. I think you've got it all under control.

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Yes, everybody - Sparky is back to his old self again. I think he just had a really bad tummy ache that day. It's really weird to see THAT cat laying around not doing anything..... you know what I mean. He was causing trouble on Tuesday (moreso in the afternoon than the morning) and as I was trying to leave for school (late, mind you) he darted out the front door on me to roll around in the dirt. It's a good thing he likes to roll in the dirt or I'd never catch him!!!

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You know, when I mentioned Evan and his condition to my employees yesterday, two of them said "put to sleep" (one of them not so gracefully).

My non-verbal response to them must have been frightening - as I quickly received two apologies.

I wonder if PTC = unemployment?

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Well, tonight, Angus went to use the litter box. He first passed a lot of gas and then seemed to have to strain to use the litter box. His stools were well formed but moist. There was some blood expelled at the end of the bowel movement due to straining. I have a call into my vet...I also want to see if they will let me bring him in once a week or so to get a weight check done on him. I will let you all know what the vet says...Angus still seems energetic! I am a wee bit frustrated and concern but on day at a time, or at least that is what I am telling myself.
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Poor Angus. Gas pains are not nice! Good that the stool was wellformed, but the blood part isn't so good.

I hope it all gets cleared up soon. Is it frustrating.

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Yep, gas pain is not nice at all! The vet opens at 7:30a...I left a message last night so I am hoping for a return phone call soon. If I am unable tobring Angus in to the vet for free weight checks, I am going to check with the shelter I got him from to see if they have a scale for cats that I can use. I am sure they would let me use it if they have it. Maybe, Angus needs a different type of food since this one seems not to be working well with his colitis and maybe some additional medications. I will discuss this with the vet today as well. I am going to keep at the vet until something is figured out. Until then, I am a little worried and concerned but I guess that is a mother's job.

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Good news for Angus...It has now been a week since he was placed on Flagyl 50 mg twice daily. A week ago, he weigh 10 pounds 6 ounces (5/1/2006). This was down 6 ounces from his weigh of 10 pounds 12 ounces on 3/21/2006. Today, at the vet, Angus weighed in at 10 pounds, 11.5 ounces. They weighed him on the same scale. So, in a week's time, he has gained 5.5 ounces which is almost all of the weigh he lost over the last month. He seems to be doing much better on the Flagyl.

In response to my last post, the vet said not to worry about the gas...if it occurs after being on Flagyl, let her know. So far, I have not noticed anymore problems with gas which I am grateful for...I have a feeling that was just his system working itself out.


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Good to hear Angus gained some weight. That seems to indicate that the Flagyl is helping the problem and that Angus is feeling better, so therefore feels like eating more. I hope there are no more troubles with gas.

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I'm glad for Angus (and for you too) that he is doing better and gaining weight. Sounds like he'll be ok, at least, that is the hope.

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I am really overwhlemed right now...

Angus took his last dose of Flagy on Monday, 5/14/2006. On Sunday morning, while still on Flagyl, he past a semi-formed wet bowel movement with some blood at the end. He was straining while using the litter box. I emailed the vet Sunday morning, a picture of his bowel movement, as well as an update on him gaining weight.

The vet left me a message on my cell phone saying she was alarmed that he had an abnormal bowel movement near the end of his Flagyl treatment.

The next step is to bring a stool sample from Angus to the vet on Thursday or Friday. They are going to send it to a lab to every test under the sun run on the stool to determine if there are any parasites (etc) to be found. If so, they will start to treat him for the parasite. I am praying for parasites to be found.

If parasites are not found in his stool sample, my vet either wants to start a round of Prednisone and/or have him scoped to see if they can locate any problems in his GI. I am thinking that if the stool sample comes back negative, I will try a course of Prednisone. And, if that does not alleviate the symptoms, I will talk to my vet about changing the prescription diet Angus is on to another prescription diet.

The good news is that Angus has gained back the weight he has lost and has gained more than he weighed before.

After getting off the phone with the vet, I started crying and crying and crying. In the past year and a half, I have spent thousands on my two cats, Clay and Mills, and none of the tests came back with anything definitive. So, even if I put out the money for a scope, there is no guarantee that I will have any answers regarding Angus. And, one of my cats, Mills, had to be put down in December 2005. The pain of losing Mills is still freshed and that is making me feel exhausted right now, thinking of Angus. I am sooo overwhlemed right now. Three sick cats in a row is really wearing especially on my heart because I love these animals so much.

I am terrified of something happening to Angus and my fear of what could happen. He appears healthy...he is eating, drinking and gaining weight. He has some challenges with BMs from time to time but overall, seems to be doing well.

Any support and encouragement would be very deeply appreciated.

Thanks,

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Ok.... I know this is difficult but you have to take it all one day at a time. Do the stool sample thing with Angus on Thursday or Friday and wait for the results before you panic. Maybe there will be a parasite of some type and the treatment for the parasite will be the end of it. If that is not the problem, then go to step 2 and try the prednisone. It will take some time to go through those steps so GIVE YOURSELF THAT TIME to deal with each step as it comes. Don't overwhelm yourself with everything all at once. I'll say some prayers for Angus and for Clay and even some for Mills..... you just take care of yourself too because without you, those cats won't have a chance. You need to be ok too. For them, Ok? Just one step at a time.....

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Oh Kirsten, 

It is a very draining thing, emotionally, physically and financially that you have been going through. Most people only have one cat with medical problems.

Doing the stool sample first would be what I would do. While I don't want a cat to have parasites, that would be a good outcome in this case as then the correct medication can be used, and the problem would be over in not too long a time. Then if no parasites are found, I'd do as you plan- the prednisone first before the scope.

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I understand you feeling terrified that Angus has something very, very bad going on. But, it doesn't sound like it from the above.

I send my most fervent good wishes that Angus will be well soon, with nothing serious going on.

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((((((Kirsten))))))

I remember feeling completely overwhelmed when I thought Thomas had FIP - I'd hold him in my lap and just bawl like a baby. None of his test results were 100% conclusive either, but after many rounds of antiobiotics he finally started acting better and now he's healthy and happy.

I can only imagine how hard it must be to have had three sick babies so close together. 

I'm glad he's eating, drinking and gaining weight - those are all great signs and he and you will be in my thoughts and prayers.

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Kirsten,

I just caught up with your recent posts and am so sorry about Angus, and all that you're going through. It's almost time by now to get the stool sample, and hopefully it will be something simple.

I was thinking about your situation, and if it isn't a definitive diagnosis at the outset, and it looks like many more tests might be involved, I was wondering if you might consider getting a 2nd opinion from another vet before you continue with the tests. From my experience every vet has his/her own way of doing things. I've had 2 or 3 experiences with getting 2nd opinions and with all of them, believe it or not, the 2nd opinion was different, simpler and cost much less money.

I'm certainly not saying that your vet is doing anything wrong, but sometimes in my humble opinion, it helps to get another opinion when the situation is serious.

Just a thought.

In the meantime I will pray for you and Angus, especially for a good outcome for this situation. Please know that we all support you - and care for you and your family.

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Thanks everyone for your thoughts and prayers. It was good hearing from each and everyone of you.

Angus since being off Flagyl since Monday in the AM seems to be doing well...he is eating ,drinking and his energy level is good.

I have been sitting vigil near the litter box since I got off work but it appears that little Angus is not going to be cooperative tonight. Oh, vell.

Once I know the results, I will let you all know.

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I am glad Agnus is eating and drinking well, with a good energy level.

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Today, I was finally able to get a stool sample from Angus. Whenever I went out or went to sleep, he used the litter box. I finally caught him in the act today.

The vet says she is doing a fecal culture & toxin test on the sample. From what I have been able to read, toxins are a by-product of specific bacteria & viruses, so they if present they should shed some light on Angus' condition. Most of the bacteria and/or viral material should grow within 3 days but some can take as long as 2 weeks. If bacteria or vrisu is found, they can run a sensitivity test on them to determine which medication will work best to clear it. So, I should have some preliminary results back hopefully by next Thursday or Friday.

I just pray that something shows up in the culture. It would be nice to get a definitive diagnosis from a test! =)

Angus seems to be doing well...I have been weighing Angus and his average weight appears around 10 pounds, 14.5 ounces or above. His weigh at the lowest was 10 pounds, 6 ounces on 5/1/2006. Righ now, he has got his weight back on him and actually weighs on his average at 10 pounds, 15 ounces.

He loooooves wet food..So, I have been feeding him more wet than dry...he devours it...I have heard from some other cat owners who have felines with IBD that weight food appears more friendly to the GI tract than dry food. He is drinking just fine. And, his energy level is definitely high.

I have noticed that he does appear to "whine" a bit when he jumps from a high spot and lands on the floor. So, I think he may have some discomfort...or, maybe that is normal for a cat?

His BMs are still somewhat soft...they are formed together but not like a tootsie roll. At this point, I am concerned but not overly concerned since his weight is steady and doing well.

Once I hear about the fecal culture results, I will let you all know. Anyone else had fecal cultures done on their cats...what did they look for? what could they tell ya?



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Re: Cat with Colitis- Valpofan98, March 2006
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I'm glad you finally got a stool sample from Angus, fresh and knowing it was from him and not one of the other cats. 

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He loooooves wet food..So, I have been feeding him more wet than dry...he devours it...I have heard from some other cat owners who have felines with IBD that weight food appears more friendly to the GI tract than dry food.


I am glad he loves wet food as what you wrote is true; wet food does often seem better for cats with IBD. Quality wet food, that is. I don't know that cheap grocery store wet food would be as good, as they use grain fillers and very inferior ingredients in cheap wet food.

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I have noticed that he does appear to "whine" a bit when he jumps from a high spot and lands on the floor. So, I think he may have some discomfort...or, maybe that is normal for a cat? 


No, not really normal. On occasion, when Seamus is on a high spot and noticed something of interest on the floor, when he lands and is on his way to the item of interest, he makes a cute little mrrruh? noise. But that is truly like he is saying out loud, "Hmm, what is that?" Otherwise, I don't hear my cats maying whines or other vocalizations when they land from a jump. So I think Angus may have some discomfort after plopping down on the floor from a high spot.

Things are sound ok with Angus right. Not perfect, but the formed stool and good appetite are good signs.

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Anyone else had fecal cultures done on their cats...what did they look for?


I've only had the routine "look for worms" stool checks done for cat stool. The vet does that in the office looking at the stool under a microscope to see if any of the microscopic sized worms are present.

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Waiting for test results never gets easier...I am fine with the pills and fine with daily weight checks on Angus because that is in my control...but, waiting for test results in someone else's hands and not getting an immediate response is challenging. I want to know now...the vet said I should know preliminary results by Wed or Thursday.

If results come back negative, the vet and myself have pretty much narrowed the list of possible diagnosis to IBD, and/or a possible blockage in his GI tract. He likes chewing apart paper, so who knows.

I am not going to be majorly disappointed (I hope) if the test shows nothing...I am used to cat diagnostic tests not showing anything...For Angus sake, I hope the see something that can be treated. He isn't doing poorly but I would like to get him as close to 100% as possible.

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I understand you feeling terrified that Angus has something very, very bad going on. But, it doesn't sound like it from the above.


Thanks for that reminder...also the reminder to take one thing at a time...right now, just wait for fecal culture results then go from there.

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Maria wrote:
I was thinking about your situation, and if it isn't a definitive diagnosis at the outset, and it looks like many more tests might be involved, I was wondering if you might consider getting a 2nd opinion from another vet before you continue with the tests. 


Maria,

Thanks for your response. This is the 2nd vet I am on. The blessing in all of this is that I am completely comfortable with my vet. I got a place that specializes in cats only. There are about 5 vets there. When I talk to my vet on Wed, depending on what is said, I will ask her if any of the vets at the Cat Hospital have any ideas.

The good thing is that Dr.McKamey has worked from the easiet intervention/test all the way up, which I appreciate. My old vet would have started with the scope and gone from there. At this point, I really only have 3 options left if culture is negative: 1) Try another diet...sometimes it takes more than one shot to get a good that works. 2) Try some steriods which at this time I am somewhat oppossed to 3) Do a scope--financially I am not quite sure if I can afford it and I am not to confidant with diagnostic tests.

I will let you know as soon as I have fecal culture results. Thansk for thinking about me and Angus...Dr.McKamey is the one who in 22 days got my Clay's liver under control when my old vet from another office couldn't get any good results after a year of work.

If culture comes back negative, I will work with Dr.McKamey on alternatives before a scope. And, maybe since another one of their vets as well. One step at a time, right? 

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[quote="rubygirl1968I remember feeling completely overwhelmed when I thought Thomas had FIP - I'd hold him in my lap and just bawl like a baby. [/quote]

FIP just sucks! My brother's dog died of Parvo (dog verison of FIP) and at least, they can give dog's definitive diganosis of Parvo...not so with cats, that is hard part.

My cat Mills, who passed in December, ended up having a congenital liver defect. At time of biopsy, he also had fatty liver because he had not ate for so long. Anywho, that whole FIP scare got me really jumpy.

Waiting for fecal culture results...
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I was reviewing my vets notes on Angus...the last time we were there on 5/1/2006...the vet noted that Angus had a fluid-filled GI tract which was non-painful...Is fluid in the GI tract a "normal" symptom of IBD? Thanks! Kirsten

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Answered my own question...
Got this from a website about human IBD...biology of it is pretty much the same:

Inflammation causes cells in the affected areas of your intestine to secrete large amounts of water and salt. Because normal intestinal absorption is impaired, your colon can't absorb this excess fluid, and you develop diarrhea.

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Answered my own question...
Got this from a website about human IBD...biology of it is pretty much the same:

Inflammation causes cells in the affected areas of your intestine to secrete large amounts of water and salt. Because normal intestinal absorption is impaired, your colon can't absorb this excess fluid, and you develop diarrhea.


Ahh. I was wondering. Glad you found the answer.

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Hey everyone.

The fecal culture results came back yesterday. All results were negative.

The next step the doctor wanted me to peform was a scope. But, at this time and due to my past cat expsenses, I am not in a financially place to be able to afford the operation. I am saving up money so if in the future I really need to do a scope of Angus, I will have the money on hand.

Originally, the doctor was not willing to plae Angus on a trial of Steriods if a scope was not done but after I explained to her my financial situation, she said she would be willing to if Angus' symptoms progress.

The next test, which is only around $60, is a test for Giaridia, which I had assumed has been completed already but my vet called today to tell me she noticed the test was not performed. So, that is the next step.

Also, we changed him from Royal Canin's IVD Green Pea and Vension Wet/Dry Food to Eukanuba Low Residue Prescription Diet Wet/Dry. So, I will see if this diet change helps him out anymore than the last diet change.

Angus and I go back to the vet in a month to see how the diet change is working. He will continue to be on L-Lysine 250 mg twice daily for his viral herpes respiratory thing. Also, as needed, the doctor will place him on Flagyl. I will continue to keep an eye on his weight at home.

Finally, Angus finally vomitted a fur ball which he had been working on for awhile. I was glad to see the hair ball! =)

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As an aside...today is Angus' birthday....HAPPY 1-YEAR BIRTHDAY, ANGUS! I am grateful for your presence in my life...you are truly a forever kitty.

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Happy Birthday Angus! You're just a wee baby!

It sounds like Angus might be okay. I sure hope so. Please keep us updated.

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Hopefully it will all get sorted soon. I am very surprised a test for Giardia had not been done yet. Maybe that is the problem.

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Oddest thing...Angus' appetitie was down yesterday...wasn't interested in any of the wet food I put out...Finally at night, he ate some of the wet food.

This morning I attempted to feed him some wet food again...he was not interested so I attempted microwaving his food...still not interested...So, then I put the food on the ground and he gobbled up half a can.

Not sure what that was about but happy to see him eating.

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This morning I attempted to feed him some wet food again...he was not interested so I attempted microwaving his food...still not interested...So, then I put the food on the ground and he gobbled up half a can.

Not sure what that was about but happy to see him eating.


Kirsten,

I forgot where you live, but is it hot? I live in NJ and it was 94 F today. When it gets hot, many times Jeremy & Molly don't eat as much. Even Jeremy doesn't eat as much - normally he will eat anything that doesn't eat him first. 

I hope his appetite will increase. Otherwise, just put his food on the ground.

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It was pretty hot today...come to think of it...Angus did start eating food later in the evening...the dry food none the less...Overall, he seems to be doing well...Waiting to get a fecal sample to get it tested for Giardia...

Tonight, I did the food on the floor thing and same results...he wasn't interested when it was in the bowl but as soon as I put it on the floor...presto...he was interested!

Then, I am going to have the vet treat him as though he has IBD...Maybe the Giardia will come back positive which would be easier to manage than IBD.

Angus' energy seems to be good, his is drinking and he is eating dry food from the bowl and wet food from the ground.

I have a feeling that whatever is going on with his bowel movements will work itself out or if not, it is something that can be managed over time. I have had him since January and it has been an on-going concern...At least, his viral herpes thing is much better and his flea problem is gone. =)

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LOL...you know you have a cat with IBD-ish like symptoms when you run to the litter box when you see him using it and get excited when you see more well formed BMs then you are used to seeing from him. *Crossing fingers* Maybe, new low residue food is helping. Kirsten

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Kinda weird request...can those of you with cats who have IBD-like symtpoms look at:



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That is a web page I created that has Angus' BM for today...does it look "good" (I know this is a relative term) for cats with IBD-like symptoms?

Oh, I was able to take that BM in for a Giardia test (only $28!) and I will get the results definitely by tomorrow morning. Just got the results....Negative for Giardia...so basically working with IBD as a diagnosis even without a biopsy.

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First, as not to make Clay feel left out...he is doing well. He is still on Actigall every other month and in the next couple of months, he goes back to the vet for a liver check.

Angus doesn't seem to be eating as much wet food as he once did. However, his weight is steady and in fact, he weighs the most today to date...today he weighed in at 11 pounds, 3 ounces. After eating he seemed to have some stomach upset...hiccups...head moving forward kind of thing so I am going to give him some Pepcid.

Every test has been run and well, nothing has seem out of the ordinary excpet for his BM and some stomach upset.

You all have great days!

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I'm glad that Clay is doing well and that Angus isn't losing weight. 

I hope that the Pepcid helps Angus's tummy and his symptoms abate soon.

I hope you have a great day too!

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None of my cats have IBD, so I can't comment on that. My only observations is that it looked like a lot from only one bowl movement.

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Kirsten, that is not a normal looking bowel movement. It is not alarmingly not normal, but it is too "juicy". Also, the color is too pale. It does seem a lot for one movement.

I am glad Angus is holding his weight.

Good that Clay is doing well.

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Just to add what the others have said about the b.m. It appears to me that it has some red blood mixed through the stool if you look closely.

I too hope and pray that it is not serious.

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Just to add what the others have said about the b.m. It appears to me that it has some red blood mixed through the stool if you look closely.

I too hope and pray that it is not serious.

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That's what I was thinking. Though I didn't care to analyze the picture too long, as I am sure you can understand.

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Yep, there was some blood mixed in with the BM...It looks larger because I zoomed in so it was easier to see. =)

Angus' next vet date is in the beginning of July. At that time, I will chat with the vet about the possibility of steriods to help control whatever is going on with him.

His weight lately has been holding even at 11 pounds, 1 ounce which is good for him.

He will eat the wet food out of my hand and it seems like he is interested in dry food again.

I wish I could get his BM more normal. But, I guess this is the ups and downs of a cat with IBD.

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Maria - I'm with you. I'll look at anything "gory" to most people because I look at it scientifically (must be what's left of the nursing student in me!!! hehehe). I'm fascinated by "stuff" as you are. (My husband, on the other hand, is like a little girl when it comes to blood or surgery shows and stuff.....    )

                       

Kirsten - be careful with the steroids. You don't want him to be on them for a long period of time - they can lead to kidney damage among many other side effects that are not good.

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Check with your vet anyway. You could try them for a short time to see if they might make a difference, but it's not a long term fix by any means. Using the steriods for a couple weeks or maybe a couple months (depending on the dosage) won't cause any long term issues. I just don't want to see you swap one problem for another.

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Check with your vet anyway. You could try them for a short time to see if they might make a difference, but it's not a long term fix by any means. Using the steriods for a couple weeks or maybe a couple months (depending on the dosage) won't cause any long term issues. I just don't want to see you swap one problem for another.


Cats tolerate steroids better than humans, and can stay on them longer than humans before adverse side effects show up. Simon was on prednisone for about two years for his asthma. Then we switched to inhaled meds. But, for much longer than that I would not like, as cats can get diabetes from very long term use of steroids. I don't know about kidney problems.

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Hmmmmm....can't picture it. How on earth did you give Simon inhaled meds? How do you know he's breathing?

You've done it all, Margaret, and this is a first for me - never heard of anyone doing that before. 

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It is done with a spacer that has a snout piece on the end to go over the cat's nose and mouth. Then you squirt the inhaler into the other end. Simon stays still very cooperatively for about the count of 8 seconds-holding his breath!  When he starts squirming we know he is breathing again, so hold it against his snout a few more seconds.

You can read about giving cats inhaled meds and see pictures at www.fritzthebrave.com.

He uses the same inhaled asthma meds humans use. We have to buy it at the pharmacy for humans. It is expensive, and we can't apply it our insurance.

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I had Casey on steroids (of course, she's a dog) for over 3-4 years due to her allergies. When we moved here to NY, our new vet had me take her off of them because they could cause kidney and heart problems....... I'm pretty sure that's what he said, though I could be wrong. It could have been Snowballs medicine that he no longer takes too. Hm..... it was so long ago.

When Milo (orange mushball) was being seen for that possible ensophilioma granuloma thing (the blister thing on his lip that he STILL has) he went for steroid shots that lasted about 3 weeks each. After the very first one the vet really didnt' want to give him a second shot because of the possible side effects. He got it anyway, but the vet was adamant about not giving it to him unless it was really, really necessary.

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Yes, Michelle, one does not want to use steroids on a cat without it being very necessary.

Steroids (Winstrol) are given to cats with chronic renal failure sometimes to help their appetites, so I don't think steroids are implicated in causing kidney problems in cats.

But it is certain that a cat on steroids for a prolonged time is a risk for developing diabetes.

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I am Dallas, Texas right now for the National HIV Prevention Leadership Summit...I am having a good time, learning a great deal and meeting people with similar passions. I have to say sleeping in a hotel bed withouth my cats isn't good sleep! =) Hope you all are well!

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I always sleep better with at least one furry one beside me!

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I am Dallas, Texas right now for the National HIV Prevention Leadership Summit...I am having a good time, learning a great deal and meeting people with similar passions. I have to say sleeping in a hotel bed withouth my cats isn't good sleep! =) Hope you all are well!

Kirsten


It is strange to sleep without one's cats there.

Have a good time.

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Glad you are doing something you are passionate about.  And great work that you are doing HIV prevention. 

One of my good friends does HIV Prevention for the local government. Are you in public health?

Have a good conference.

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Angus and I have a follow-up appointment with the vet on Saturday.

Quick summary: Angus' problem with IBD has only been treated with some prescription diet long term. Angus has been on a 2 week course of Flagyl which did not help a great deal.

On Saturday, the vet and I are going to talk about trying
medication with Angus. Because while his bowel movements have gotten better, there is still some blood in the bowel movements.

Here is the list of questions I have for vet:

-Talk about differences between Budesonide and Prednisone (vs
Prednisilone)
-Talk about giving Angus Probiotics
-Talk about B-12 shots

Angus weight is steady at 11 pounds 4 ounces now but hopefully with medication, we can work on getting better control of the IBD to alleviate blood in the bowel movement...the blood is bright red and is at end of bowel movment...it appears from straining. The blood in bowel movement and somewhat moist bowel movements are his only IBD related symtpoms right now.

Do you all have any helpful feedback about the questions I am going to ask my vet? Are their any questions or ideas I should talk with her about that I have not listed? Any medications that I don't know of? Any help creating a list of discuission points with my vet
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Kirsten, I've never had to deal with an IBD kitty, so I don't know of any other questions to ask, but it looks like you've got all the bases covered.

I hope you get some answers and results from this visit and Angus improves.

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If Angus is straining to go, maybe the vet would recommend some sort of mild laxative to help. Care needs to be taken with laxatives, however, as too much will result in loose stools.

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I don't have any experience with an IBD kitty (or any other creature) so I can't help you either....but just wanted to tell you that I'll say some prayers that you and the vet come up with the best solution possible for poor Angus..... and I'll send healing vibes his way "just for the heck of it".

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For the straining/constipation, you might ask the vet if a tiny bit of psyllium powder (same ingredient as in Metamucil--it's just natural fiber rather than a chemical laxative) sprinkled on top of his food is OK to use. I've used that as a preventive with Chloe, but her's is just stress-related (she only gets it when I'm gone). There is a flavorless brand called Konsyl (sp?).

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Well, I just got back from the vet with Angus...

Overall, the was very happy with Angus improvements over the last month.

She said that is a very good sign that he was gained weight and he appears to be at a good weight now for his body build.

She also said that she felt no inflammation and/or fluid build up in his gut like the last time.

Together, her and I decided to try another 2 week course of Flagyl. Since he is doing so much better on this new diet, we thought we would give the Flagyl another go around. Angus was only treated with Flagyl on his old diet.

So, hopefully new diet plus a two week course of Flagyl will help bring some more normalcy to his BMs.

At this moment, I am just thrilled that Angus got a good report card from the vet! =)

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Sorry for not respondng sooner...I work as a HIV Case Manager in two main modalities: in one setting I work with clients who are in recovery from substance abuse and in the other setting I work with clients who are currently using. It challenges me clinically but I do enjoy the work I do.

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Kirsten,
It's good to see you around again. I just wanted you to know that I'm familiar with your work as I also work with people with AIDS. In our outreach, I mostly do pastoral care and some casework, mostly for the terminally ill. We have a small residence for women with AIDS, but are in the process of closing it - sometime this year. I don't do much work with substance abuse specifically - this is very challenging and I give you a lot of credit for working with these men and women.

I'm glad everything is improving and keep us updated when you have the time. I always enjoy your posts.

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Before I share Angus picture of his BM movement, I thought I should share a cute pic I shot of today:

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He decied to take my camera's usb cord hostage until I took a "nice" picture of him....I have been taking photos of his BM's to track them visually....Here is an update on him:

 

That picture (above) was taken 3 weeks into his new diet (6/12/2006) of Eukanuba food...Ickies! You can see the blood...

The picture below I took tonight (below)....He has been on Flagyl since Saruday in addition to Eukanuba Dry/Wet food:

 

That is one of the better BM's I have gotten from Angus since his trobules began...So, I am pretty happy with it. It looks a bit shiny in the picture because of the flash...it was somewhat moist but not as moist as the pic makes it look.

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I love that picture of Angus. I can't quite say the same about the BM's.  But, the recent one is not bad looking. No blood is always a very good thing!

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I finally decided to add Probiotics into Angus' medication regiment...I will let you all know how that works.

Some holistic cat people I know have also suggest Aloe Vera juice and Slippery Elm Bark...I am going to try Probiotics for a month and see where things are at....

I am all for adding or changing one thing at a time and seeing what happens.

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I called my vet about a week into Angus 2-week course of Flagyl to let her know that while his BMs are better, they still are somewhat more moist than normal and one of them had a small speck of blood. So, she prescribed Angus another 2-week course of Flagyl. Angus just finished off his first 2-week course of Flagyl...So, 2 more weeks of Flagyl 50mg twice daily for him. I must say that the BMs I am finding in the litterbox are the best I have seen from him yet.

His weight now continues to fluctuate between 11 pounds 6oz to 11pound 7oz. When he first got really ill with IBD, he was done at 10 pounds 6oz.

About a week and a half ago, I started giving Angus some probiotics everyday that seems to be helping.

After eating, he still gets a bit of gas from time to time and still hiccups. But, overall, he is improving which is wonderful to see.

Both the vet and I know that he will probably need steriods at some point but we are trying to hold off as long as possible. Right now, it seems that his new diet and the Flagyl is working better than any combo worked before.

He has a new behavior that I have noticed in the last month....he isn't sleeping in bed with me anymore but instead is sleeping on the floor next to my bed. It has been pretty blistering hot in Chicago as of late.

Hope all of your cats are doing well!
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At 3:00am, Angus woke me up with a coughing spell. This is a first time in awhile that he had a coughing fit. When I adopted Angus, he had a pretty bad viral herpes infection which took awhile to heal. Since then he has had ongoing sneezing challenges. And, from time to time, he has coughing fits. The vet and I have assumed that his viral herpes as a kitten caused some damage.

I have a call into my vet, asking what follow-up if any should be done because of his coughing fit. I also asked for them to tell me what I should do on my own if his coughing fit doesn't end on its own. This time and the last time his coughing went on for a minute or so then stopped shortley thereafter.

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I am beginning to think an allergy test may be worth it...A food allergy may account for all of his symptoms of loose stools, some blood in stools, coughing and sneezing. Right now, we are working on him as though he has IBD and something Asthma like.

We did try a hypo-allergenic food with him....the Royal Canin's IVD Green Pea and Vension formula which did not seem to help him out that much. Now, he is on Eukanuba Low Residue food.

I am wondering if Angus is allergic to something in all of these foods like grain...I am going to see how much allergy testing is and try that I think.

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It would be nice to know definitively if he's allergic to something or has IBD. How long will it take to get the results back from the allergy test?

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I am taking Angus to the vet today for a check-up. He was coughing more yesterday. When emptying his litterbox, I noticed bowel movements that were interwined with hair as well as clumps of cat hair. Also, I should add some of my hair was found in the BM. The BM was definitely Angus'. So, I am beginning to wonder about hairball problems with Angus...that can cause coughing, loose bowel movements and some of the other symptoms I have noted. So, hopefully, today I will have them do an x-ray of his lungs to assess any challenges with this lungs and I am also going to ask for an x-ray of his entire GI tract....up to this point, Angus hasn't had x-rays done.

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Okay dokey...

The vet discouraged me from doing an x-ray. She said that because he is not vomitting and because he is having bowel movements, we know that he is not completely blocked. She said that sometimes problems with hairballs will show up on x-rays and sometimes they won't. And if they see a hairball on the x-ray and if they don't, the treatment is the same...Laxatone, a lubricant for elimination and prevention for hair balls in cats. So, Angus has been started on Laxatone, 3 globs (1 teaspoon) daily. It actually tastes like tuna...he LOVES the taste since his diet is restricted to Eukanuba Low Residue. I think Angus is pumped that he now gets "treats." =) Little does he know... lol

In terms of my questions about asthma, she took a listen to his lungs and heart. She said that they sound great and no need to worry about lung problems at this time. She said it is possible that he may have some minor asthma thing going on...But, again an x-ray will sometimes show the inflammation in the bronchial tubes to lead to a diganosis and sometimes it won't even if the cat does has asthma. So, again, sometimes they see it and sometimes they don't but the treatment is the same. She said what I thought all along which is if we need to do steriods...the steriods will help both with IBD and with his asthma-like symptoms from time to time.

Tonight I was cleaning out the litterbox and noticed that his BM had matted hair bails in it again. I took the BM from last night which was horribly filled with hair to the vet with me and she said that it defintiely was not normal. So, at this time, I am more than covinced that his coughing fits are due to hairball problems.

With the allergies, the vet was actually intrigued with my idea that allergies could explain his coughing, sneezing and loose bowels. I told her that up to this point we keep diganosising Angus with different illnesses for different symptoms, which I understand the need to do because they guide treatment. But, I also told her that I wanted to explore other possible things that could cause all of his symptoms...I came up with hair balls and allergies. She is going to think now about the idea of allergy testing cats who show IBD-like symptoms and coughing/sneezing....go Kirsten! Of course, if Angus coughing continues during his Laxatone treatment or gets worse, I definitely will aggressively go after a thorough investigation of his coughing.

At this time though, she did discourage allergy testing since Angus definitely is having challenges with hair balls. So for now, I am going to treat him with Laxatone for a period of time and see if there is an improvement in his overall presentation.

So, I backed down from the idea of x-rays and allergy testing today. Mainly because I found his BM last night full with hair. Also, I must admit I am still recuperating financially from paying for treatment of Mills, Clay and Angus. And, we decided to stay away from doing bloodwork today because the last blood panel I did which was the most comprhensive one you can do (it tests every vital organ) came back completely normal.

So, here is Angus' current med list:

L-Lysine 250mg twice daily
Flagyl 50mg twice daily
Probiotics: 1/32 of a tablespoon once a day
Laxatone 1 tsp by mouth once daily.

I have been trying like a mad scientist to find a way to introduce milk thistle to him and Clay but so far they hate the taste. Oh vell!

At this point, Angus has gained 4 ounces since his last vet visit which is great. I printed off this morning all of the pictures I have taken of Angus's BMs, the excel spreadsheet I have of his weight and the excel spreadsheet I keep of all important changes in his weight/presentation/medication/food/symptoms. The vet found it all very helpful and was pretty impressed by my comittment to my cats. She took my information and put it in the chart.

The vet also provided me with a fun comb they use at the vet's office that Angus feel in love with that grooms the undercoat of the cat. It is the best grooming brush I have used up to now that really gets TONS of fur of cats. I get to bond more with my cats, they love it and they hopefully will lick down less fur!

I have to say these message boards are great beause I get to talk with cat lovers. But, also they are great for historical recording keeping of what is going on with my cats. Thanks all!

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Kirsten, I am glad the investigation about Angus' problems are still continuing. I think allergies could be an explanation. Or, he could have allergies plus something else.

It is good that a lot of hair came out in his BM, so it won't get a chance to ball up into a blockage.

I hope his problems get resolved soon.

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A quick update on my two lovely kitties:

Clay:

After isolating Clay and Angus, I found out that Clay was the one with hairball problems. After being on a teaspoon of Laxaton for 4 days...He has passed a lot of hair...There is still more hair in his stool than normal but it is decreasing....Clay is acting like a kitten now....Running around, playing and more bright eyed. I feel badly it took awhile to figure out what he was grumpy but I am glad I have figured out what was wrong with him! Clay is currently on Actigall 50 mg every other day and now Laxatone as needed.

Angus:

Angus is still weighing in at 11 pounds 7 ounces...Since starting Flagyl a month ago, his weight increase and is now holding steady. His bowel movement are still well formed, a bit moist, but no blood at all since he started this dose of Flagyl! Yippie!!! Angus will be on Flagyl 50 mg twice daily at least for another month. He is also on L-Lysine 250 mg twice daily and Laxatone as needed.

Thanks for everyone's support!

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Galen threw up a giant hairball the other day. I comb him so much, I don't know where all that fur comes from. But the cats sure do feel perkier getting out that fur.

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Just as an update...Clay is going in for his 6 month liver enzyme check and physical. I am focusing positive vibes on him for good test results tomorrow. I swear that as I was brushing Clay today, Mills visited for a wee bit...I believe in that stuff...I think he was wishing Clay well tomorrow.

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I am crying a bit now. The vet just called. She said that Clay's ALT is elevated again..It is actually the higest it has ever been at 267. Before that his highest was 250. Normal ALT is between 10-70. Also, Clay's AST level is elevated. It is 74...Norm for that is 8-35. She said that the AST elevation is considered mild and the ALT is mild-moderate. If the ALT goes between 300-400, we should become more aggressive with medication. I just hope his ALT goes back down soon...It took so long that last time to get it under control. *sigh*

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 Posted: Thu 10 August 07:41 am    Post subject:     

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I'm sorry to hear that. 

I'll keep him in my thoughts and prayers - I hope his levels go back down soon.

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 Posted: Thu 10 August 07:42 am    Post subject:     

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So, the vet doesn't think that adjusting the meds NOW would be of help???? That doesn't sound right given how high those readings were..... and I'm not understaning how they could be "mild" and "mild-moderate" if those readings are so high off the charts. Either they need to adjust the "average" or "normal" figures or.....well, I dont' know. Just doesn't seem right to me. On the other paw, I don't understand what those things that he has elevated do. I'm not "savy" as to what they mean in terms of Clays' health.

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Oh no, Kirsten! I was so hoping to hear things were well. I too am puzzled as to why the vet doesn't recommend medication now. Unless perhaps it can have some bad side effects best to hold off on until things are very serious.

I pray his levels go down.

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